<div dir="ltr"><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">Andrew,</span><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"></span><br></div><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"></span><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">Thanks
for looping in other members! I'm sorry if my email came across the
wrong way. The tracking code has nothing to do with intentions: it’s
being applied by a popular Gmail plugin. I’ve disabled the plug-in for
this reply.</span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="arial" color="#222222" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I want to follow up on just two points: collaboration and RhodeCode’s CLA.</span></font><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"> My goal was to find out how best to invite any interested members of the Kallithea community to also join our community. </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">RhodeCode uses the</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> </span><a href="http://choosealicense.com/licenses/agpl-3.0/" style="font-family:arial;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">AGPLv3 license</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">. </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:12.6667px">Like yours, our community is open. We respect the skills and creativity of the people on this thread. I</span></font><font face="arial" color="#222222" size="2">’</font><font face="arial" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:12.6667px">ll reiterate the invitation here.</span></font></span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">Second, </span><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"><a href="https://rhodecode.com/rhodecode-cla" target="_blank">RhodeCode’s CLA</a> does </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">n<wbr>ot require </span><u style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">any</u><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial" color="#222222" size="2"> copyright
assignment. It also does not impose restrictions on what the copyright
holder (contributing developer) can do with their work. It’s on our <a href="https://rhodecode.com/open-source" target="_blank">web site</a> for any potential contributors to see
up front. </font></span><span style="font-size:12.6667px;font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline"><br><br>I am here not to debate the relative merits of our respective
licenses or goals. More than willing to answer questions about our
project and related topics, if there are community members who are
interested.</span> My regards to the people on this thread and thank you again for putting me in touch.<br></div><br>Thanks,<br>Dmitry. <div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Andrew Shadura <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@shadura.me" target="_blank">andrew@shadura.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[Cc'ed Kallithea mailing list]<br>
<br>
Hi Dmitry,<br>
<span><br>
On 31/08/16 19:30, Dmitry Konchalenkov wrote:<br>
> Hi Andrew,<br>
><br>
> My name is Dmitry, I recently joined RhodeCode. I saw your email on the<br>
> Mailing List of Kallithea and decided to reach out to you directly, hope<br>
> it is appropriate.<br>
<br>
</span>Well, actually I find this very inappropriate. If you have indeed been<br>
reading Kallithea mailing list for some time, you should know that it is<br>
the appropriate way to contact community for all such inquiries.<br>
Instead, you decided to ‘reach out’ to me directly, which makes me doubt<br>
sincerity of your intentions.<br>
<br>
> <div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img style="width:0px;max-height:0p<wbr>x;overflow:hidden" src="<a href="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZG1pdHJ5QHJob2RlY29kZS5jb20%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=f62c2f3d-3bf0-4dbd-bd2c-fc2affaf5539" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mailfoogae.appspo<wbr>t.com/t?sender=aZG1pdHJ5QHJob2<wbr>RlY29kZS5jb20%3D&type=zero<wbr>content&guid=f62c2f3d-3bf0<wbr>-4dbd-bd2c-fc2affaf5539</a>"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div><br>
<br>
This tracking code also doesn’t suggest your intentions are good.<br>
<span><br>
> It’s been two years since Kallithea was launched. I’ve been following<br>
> the development of Kallithea, and ever since RhodeCode went open source<br>
</span>> <<a href="https://rhodecode.com/blog/113/rhodecode-goes-open-source-unified-security-for-git-svn-mercurial" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rhodecode.com/blog/11<wbr>3/rhodecode-goes-open-source-u<wbr>nified-security-for-git-svn-me<wbr>rcurial</a>>,<br>
<span>> I thought about whether we could start some type of collaboration with<br>
> Kallithea community. Connecting the Kallithea and RhodeCode communities<br>
> will benefit everyone, notably users. In the end, we share the same<br>
> goal: creating an open platform for source code management, secure,<br>
> reliable, and easy-to-use.<br>
<br>
</span>To me, RhodeCode’s license choice, as well as requirement of copyright<br>
assignment which gives RhodeCode right to use contributions for any<br>
purpose and at the same time preventing others from doing the same (or<br>
using it under the GPL), shows RhodeCode has intentioanlly decided to<br>
not make RhodeCode free and open software project.<br>
<br>
RhodeCode has made their code incompatible with Kallithea, leaving no<br>
options for collaboration.<br>
<br>
P.S. Obviously, all the above is my personal opinion and doesn’t reflect<br>
the position of the project as a whole.<br>
<span><br>
> Would you have time for a short call<br>
</span>> <<a href="https://calendly.com/rhodecode/rhodecode-call/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://calendly.com/rhodecod<wbr>e/rhodecode-call/</a>>? I would love to hear<br>
<span>> your thoughts and perspectives on that.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Dmitry.<br>
> --<br>
> Dmitry Konchalenkov<br>
> Sr.Marketing Manager<br>
> RhodeCode<br>
</span>> <a href="http://rhodecode.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rhodecode.com</a> <<a href="https://rhodecode.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rhodecode.com/</a>><br>
<span>><br>
> Enterprise Source Code Management. Unified.<br>
</span>> Contact us: Web <<a href="https://rhodecode.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rhodecode.com/</a>> • Twitter<br>
> <<a href="https://twitter.com/rhodecode" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/rhodecode</a><wbr>> • Community<br>
> <<a href="http://community.rhodecode.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://community.rhodecode.co<wbr>m/</a>> • Slack <<a href="https://rhodecode.com/join" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rhodecode.com/join</a>><br>
> ᐧ<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
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