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      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">On 08/29/2016 01:28 AM,
        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ssackett@adaxa.com">ssackett@adaxa.com</a> wrote:</p>
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          <font size="-1">For example, the open-source ERP I deal with
            will let you do the following with a relatively small amount
            of configuration and no code changes:<br>
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      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">[snip]</p>
      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">Steven,</p>
      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">Thanks for chiming in.
        Your list is good core functionality, to be sure. One major
        requirement we have of the system that wasn’t listed is that it
        be proactive about helping the filer submit a good reimbursement
        request—one an accountant can review and (hopefully) accept
        quickly. A primary goal of the project is to reduce the time
        both sides spend organizing the necessary data, and mailing back
        and forth to get missing documentation and so on. We want it to
        be possible to configure the system with information about
        reimbursement policies, and notify filers <em>before</em> they
        submit a reimbursement request that can’t be accepted, and
        suggest ways they might fix it. If you know of systems that make
        that possible, I’m definitely interested to hear about them.</p>
      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">Having a form that comes
        directly from the accounting system is great for integration,
        but could pose challenges for smoothing over the process for
        filers. An interface that uses terminology from accounting like
        “purchase order,” “cost center,” and so on may be opaque to
        filers, who often aren’t native English speakers. If they end up
        e-mailing for help as a result, that could thwart the goal
        above.</p>
      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">Meanwhile, one benefit
        to having a Reimbursement system that’s separate from the
        accounting system is that it’s possible for many different
        organizations to start using and benefiting from it, even while
        they’re all using different accounting systems themselves.
        Several organizations have already expressed interest. If we can
        help them start using it soon, it would be great to start
        getting their feedback and generating more interest, both for
        the Reimbursement system specifically and the Non-Profit
        Accounting Project generally.</p>
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        <blockquote
          cite="mid:acf88ac9-0ce1-75a6-14ea-573ffb4a7aa8@adaxa.com"
          type="cite"><font size="-1">I have not stated which open
            source ERP this is because the point I wish to make is that
            there are probably a number of existing open source ERPs
            which will do all this stuff (and more) but which were
            dismissed </font><font size="-1"><font size="-1"> during
              the early reviews </font>as unsuitable, or too
            big/complex, or (validly) as not quite real open source.  Of
            course, as soon as you get into real-world situations a lot
            of complexity that has already been addressed by ERP's that
            have been under development for many years will come back to
            haunt the developers of the new project.  <br>
            <br>
            In nearly every system selection process I have been
            involved with in 12 years of running an open source ERP
            business there has been a detailed user requirements
            document and an attempt to compare these specific
            requirements with candidate system's capabilities.</font></blockquote>
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      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">This sounds sensible to
        me. It doesn’t cover the whole Non-Profit Accounting Project,
        but I’ve put together an initial <a
          href="http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/Reimbursements/Requirements/">Requirements
          document for the Reimbursement system</a> on our project wiki.
        This is only my first pass, so I might have overlooked
        something, but I’m eager to hear the list’s feedback. Are there
        requirements you know about, or commonly see, that we should
        consider? Are there systems that you know meet these
        requirements?</p>
      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">The page is organized by
        “first release” requirements—functionality that Conservancy
        needs from the system in order for it to help us save time
        today—and requirements that can come later, that would save
        additional time or make the system more user friendly but aren’t
        strictly necessary for the first release. If there are systems
        that meet many of the requirements, including some later
        requirements but maybe not every single first release
        requirement, I’d be especially interested in hearing about
        those—we could look at extending it to meet our needs.
        Conversely, if there’s a system that meets all the initial
        requirements, but the architecture isn’t suitable to fulfilling
        some of the later requirements, that’s admittedly a little less
        compelling from my perspective.</p>
      <p style="margin: 1.2em 0px ! important;">Thanks,</p>
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