From hurmo.hi14 at erine.eu Tue Jun 25 00:44:38 2024 From: hurmo.hi14 at erine.eu (hurmo.hi14 at erine.eu) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:44:38 -0400 Subject: Need Help Convincing My Community Message-ID: <1848544.YD5drVlXrg@ultramarine> Hello, I am a member of the OpenWRT community (a member organization of the SFC), and I need your help convincing my fellow members to more carefully consider switching away from GitHub. I'm not a significant contributor in any way, but every time I've brought up this concern within the community at any level within the last few years, it's been immediately shut down either with the equivalent of "if you don't like GitHub you can just leave", or minimizing any and all concerns as solely coming from an impractical or untethered perspective. I've never even been able to hear any specific concerns connected to having an open-source bug tracker/repository system. At one point I had even offered to donate a few XMR from my meager personal funds to offset any one-time costs coming from such a transition. I can provide a couple public links to community discussions on this topic if those would be helpful, but my intention is not to disparage, shame, or bully anyone. I just need help getting these concerns to the right people within the community without ruffling feathers or creating tensions. I firmly believe given the diversity and stature of this community, that switching to an open-source system would bring many more benefits than the potential drawbacks and the potential effort needed. But effecting change is not so easy when folks see any suggestion as a personal attack — which they then feel the need to fend off with the full might of their stature within the community. Happy to hear any suggestions from this experienced group! In Anticipation, hurmo