Connecting Kallithea and RhodeCode

[Dmitry Konchalenkov]

Andrew,

Thanks for looping in other members! I'm sorry if my email came across the
wrong way. The tracking code has nothing to do with intentions: it’s being
applied by a popular Gmail plugin. I’ve disabled the plug-in for this reply.

I want to follow up on just two points: collaboration and RhodeCode’s CLA.
My goal was to find out how best to invite any interested members of the
Kallithea community to also join our community. RhodeCode uses the AGPLv3
license <http://choosealicense.com/licenses/agpl-3.0/>. Like yours, our
community is open. We respect the skills and creativity of the people on
this thread. I’ll reiterate the invitation here.

Second, RhodeCode’s CLA <https://rhodecode.com/rhodecode-cla> does not
require *any* copyright assignment. It also does not impose restrictions on
what the copyright holder (contributing developer) can do with their work.
It’s on our web site <https://rhodecode.com/open-source> for any potential
contributors to see up front.

I am here not to debate the relative merits of our respective licenses or
goals. More than willing to answer questions about our project and related
topics, if there are community members who are interested. My regards to
the people on this thread and thank you again for putting me in touch.

Thanks,
Dmitry.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Andrew Shadura <andrew at shadura.me> wrote:

> [Cc'ed Kallithea mailing list]
>
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> On 31/08/16 19:30, Dmitry Konchalenkov wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > My name is Dmitry, I recently joined RhodeCode. I saw your email on the
> > Mailing List of Kallithea and decided to reach out to you directly, hope
> > it is appropriate.
>
> Well, actually I find this very inappropriate. If you have indeed been
> reading Kallithea mailing list for some time, you should know that it is
> the appropriate way to contact community for all such inquiries.
> Instead, you decided to ‘reach out’ to me directly, which makes me doubt
> sincerity of your intentions.
>
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>
> This tracking code also doesn’t suggest your intentions are good.
>
> > It’s been two years since Kallithea was launched. I’ve been following
> > the development of Kallithea, and ever since RhodeCode went open source
> > <https://rhodecode.com/blog/113/rhodecode-goes-open-source-u
> nified-security-for-git-svn-mercurial>,
> > I thought about whether we could start some type of collaboration with
> > Kallithea community. Connecting the Kallithea and RhodeCode communities
> > will benefit everyone, notably users. In the end, we share the same
> > goal: creating an open platform for source code management, secure,
> > reliable, and easy-to-use.
>
> To me, RhodeCode’s license choice, as well as requirement of copyright
> assignment which gives RhodeCode right to use contributions for any
> purpose and at the same time preventing others from doing the same (or
> using it under the GPL), shows RhodeCode has intentioanlly decided to
> not make RhodeCode free and open software project.
>
> RhodeCode has made their code incompatible with Kallithea, leaving no
> options for collaboration.
>
> P.S. Obviously, all the above is my personal opinion and doesn’t reflect
> the position of the project as a whole.
>
> > Would you have time for a short call
> > <https://calendly.com/rhodecode/rhodecode-call/>? I would love to hear
> > your thoughts and perspectives on that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dmitry.
> > --
> > Dmitry Konchalenkov
> > Sr.Marketing Manager
> > RhodeCode
> > rhodecode.com <https://rhodecode.com/>
> >
> > Enterprise Source Code Management. Unified.
> > Contact us: Web <https://rhodecode.com/> • Twitter
> > <https://twitter.com/rhodecode> • Community
> > <http://community.rhodecode.com/> • Slack <https://rhodecode.com/join>
> > ᐧ
>
> --
> Cheers,
>   Andrew
>
>
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